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June 6, 2014

Genealogy and Auctions Go Hand In Hand

 

Antique Gouache Ogden Heraldry Coat of Arms; 1730

Antique Gouache Ogden Heraldry Coat of Arms; 1730

Every now and then something extremely cool walks in the door.  Something with history and genealogical intrigue…something with a tantalizing story that it wants to tell, but stays stubbornly silent and mysterious.  Sometimes it’s the things that are small and boring at first glance…until you research them. That’s exactly what I thought when I pulled this small frame off the wall and was ready to list it. It has taken a ton of research and digging to trace all the information and put the pieces of the puzzle together and this particular task was certainly no easy feat! A team effort of literally sifting through boxes of notes, antique ledgers and of course a little luck! And even after all of that, it is still a tantalizing mystery! Read on…

Antique Leather Bound Journal - Oldest Entry 1731

Antique Leather Bound Journal – Oldest Entry 1731

Ogden Coat of Arms

It starts with a tale…..

“There is a legend that has wide circulation, that, when King Charles I fled toward Scotland, pursued by Cromwell’s soldiers, he found temporary refuge at the home of an Ogden. “Being hard pressed, Charles I and Lord Wilmot were secreted in an oak tree and thus escaped. It is added that the King asked Ogden’s wife to name her soon expected next child, if a boy, Wilmot, and if a girl, Wilmuth, in honor of his friend, and these names have been conspicuous in Ogden family ever since. When Charles II came to the throne, he heard the story and granted the ‘Ogden family coat of arms.’” (From Rev. Charles Burr Ogden’s book, “The Quaker Ogdens.”)
“The first trace we have of the coat of arms being used by the Ogdens in Pennsylvania is the positive knowledge that John Ogden, son of David, had a painting of a coat of arms described as blazon Gyronny of eight Argent (white) and Gules (red), in the dexter chief gyron (Top left) an oak branch fructed (with acorns) Proper. On top of the shield is a tall oak tree with the crest showing a mature oak tree proper with a lion standing rampart against it. The Motto: “Et Si Ostendo Non Jacto” is along the bottom in a banner; than translated up top as “And if I make a Show I do not Boast”. Along the border in feather quilled script is written “Granted to John Ogden Esq. by King Charles the Second for his Faithfull Service to this Unfortunate Father Charles the First”. This was before 1742, and the painting continued in the family until the middle of the present century, when it was lost by Robert Wharton Ogden, of Camden, New Jersey. A description, however, was preserved. This painting set forth that it was the coat granted by Charles II to John Ogden, Esq., for services to Charles I.” (Source: The Literary Era: A Monthly Repository of Literary and Miscellaneous Information Vol 4, Pages 307 – 308)

Genealogy Provenance:

“Parthenia Ogden, wife of Jesse Conde. She died December 2, 1817, aged 73 years, 1 month, 17 days.” Also, “Jesse Conde died July 28, 1818, aged 75 years, 4 months, 19 days.” Some months after the visit to Charlton it was our privilege to meet in Poughkeepsie Miss Smith, a descendant of the Paddocks, of Westchester County, an old lady who had lived in Charlton in her youth, whose father’s friend had been Jesse Conde, son of Jesse Conde and Parthenia Ogden. She said the Condes were very proud of their Huguenot stock and of their Ogden blood, and highly prized the coat of arms which came to them through Parthenia Ogden, “granted to John Ogden by King Charles II, for faithful services rendered his unfortunate father. King Charles I.” It is the same as that found among Albert Ogden’s papers, and that the family of Benjamin Ogden have in Antigonish, Nova Scotia, except that in one copy John Ogden is called “Yeoman,” and in another is entitled, “Sir John.” Hugh Clark, English author of “Introduction to Heraldry,” says :
“The Yeomen, of England, were famous in our forefathers’ days for archery and manhood. Our infantry, which so often conquered the French and repulsed the Scots, was composed of them, as are our militia at present.” Among his other activities, Jesse Conde kept a store in Charlton. From his old account book, dating back to 1762, in years. Brown’s possession, we found the following transactions:
A receipt to John Ogden for £8 15s. gold. May 20, 1792.
Sales to Jonathan Ogden of wheat and corn on May 2, 1799, and January 3, 1799.”
This Ledger referred to above is Lot #31 in Pot Of Gold Auction’s July 1, 2014 Catalog.

Present Provenance:

From the Estate of Jesse C. “Jay” Conde; Hawaiian Rail Historian and Ferroequinologist, Museum Curator and Author of such titles which include “Sugar Trains; Narrow Gauge Rails of Hawaii” and “Fowler Locomotives in the Kingdom of Hawaii (Narrow Gauge)”.
See Coat Of Arms listing at Lot # 218 in Pot Of Gold Auction’s July 1, 2014 Catalog

So the question still exists….. Has the commissioned painting been forever lost to time, or have we discovered and recovered the original Painting of the Coat of Arms???

~Elspeth K. (Antiques & Collectibles Research and Evaluation Specialist, Pot Of Gold Auctions)

 

6 Comments »

  1. has this item been sold? Would it be possible to know who bought this item

    Comment by gary muyskens — September 6, 2014 @ 8:42 pm

  2. Thank you for reading our Blog, and for your comment! We operate an “Absolute” style auction, which means everything does get sold. And, due to privacy concerns, we do not give out any information on our buyers. Thank you again for reaching out! Keep reading, lots of great posts on their way!

    Comment by Cheryl Todd — October 13, 2014 @ 8:00 pm

  3. Et Si Ostendo Non Jacto… I am a direct descendent of the John Ogden mentioned in the story and one of the Ogdens still residing in England.

    I understand that you may not be able to divulge who purchased this lot, however I would be immeasurably grateful if you were able to forward my contact details on to them so that I might make contact – to have this returned to the original English scion of the Ogden family would be decorously poetic!

    Comment by Richard Ogden — May 12, 2015 @ 2:57 am

  4. Richard,
    I apologize for just now seeing your question, and replying so late! I will forward your request along to my Auction Team and someone will get back with you.

    Thank you for your comment…and please let us know how things turn out, ok?
    ~Cheryl Todd / auctions@potofgoldestate.com

    Comment by Cheryl Todd — May 15, 2015 @ 12:44 pm

  5. Hey Cheryl, I don’t suppose you’d be able to give the buyers another nudge for me please? I’m still very keen to get in touch with them!

    Thanks,

    Richard

    Comment by Richard — June 30, 2015 @ 2:21 am

  6. Sorry, Richard! We have asked as much as I feel comfortable asking. The buyer does not reply to any of our calls or emails.

    Comment by Cheryl Todd — July 8, 2015 @ 1:59 pm

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